Jackie: For this week's podcastsinenglish.com we're talking about photography. With me is Robert. Hi Robert.
Robert: Hello
Jackie: I know that you're very keen on photography and I know that you've been keen on photography for a long time. Robert, can you tell me about your first camera?
Robert: The first camera was a little Kodak box camera.
Jackie: A Kodak box camera?
Robert: Uh-ha
Jackie: So how old were you Robert when you got that?
Robert: I was fourteen years old…
Jackie: Wow
Robert: …and thought this was a fascinating little tool to use.
Jackie: So did it come with different lenses?
Robert: As a box camera, it's a… it’s a simple lens, it's got two speeds, fast and slow... for light and dark. End of story.
Jackie: So very basic.
Robert: Very basic.
Jackie: And what kind of film did that take?
Robert: That took er… 120 film…
Jackie: Right
Robert: …roll… roll film.
Jackie: Roll film, and I assume that was black and white?
Robert: Oh yes, black and white. And off to the chemist when you'd… when you’d taken your photographs.
Jackie: So the chemist developed the photographs for you?
Robert: Yes, that's right.
Jackie: Right
Robert: It wasn't until much later that I realised that box cameras and those were a bit obsolete, awkward to carry around and I acquired my first 35 ml [millimeter] Rangefinder camera.
Jackie: A Rangefinder?
Robert: A Rangefinder camera and then onto the first 35 ml reflex camera, a little Pentax, beautiful little camera, took wonderful photographs and for the first time interchangeable lenses so you could put on a big telephoto lens.
Jackie: Right. So… cos the first standard cameras you just couldn't change the lenses.
Robert: That's right.
Jackie: So, Robert, a big change then um… when digital cameras came on the market. When did you get your first digital camera?
Robert: Ooh, my first digital camera I bought in about 2001.
Jackie: Right
Robert: Um… just a little small… small Sony 4 megabytes…
Jackie: 4 megabytes, yes.
Robert: …erm… but very handy to use.
Jackie: Did you stop using your other cameras?
Robert: No. It was a… It was a gradual phase out of the other ones.
Jackie: Right
Robert: Although of course previously I'd been developing my own black and white and colour…
Jackie: Right
Robert: …so this was quite a change.
Jackie: Yes, definitely. So are you saying it is easier or more difficult?
Robert: Erm… I think initially I found it more difficult because I'd been processing my own film for some time and I knew what I was doing.
Jackie: So it took some time to get used to the digital camera?
Robert: Yes
Jackie: But now?
Robert: Now we've moved up to a bigger digital camera with interchangeable lenses and it's… a quite fascinating world has opened up.
Jackie: And it's not 4 megabytes, the memory, is it?
Robert: No, no, no. Big memory erm… a fantastically small, little memory card…
Jackie: …that holds hundreds of pictures. It seems almost unbelievable that this thumbnail little memory card…
Jackie: Right
Robert: …but you plug it in and all your pictures appear on the computer screen and you can select them and delete them or modify them.
Jackie: So big changes in your life.
Robert: Big changes as far as the hobby was concerned, yes.
Jackie: But um… a fantastic hobby still?
Robert: Oh yes, yes. It is fascinating.
Jackie: Robert, thank you very much.
Robert: Ok. It's been a pleasure.